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 | bob
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2000-11-17 21574
I have just purchased a modest farm of 55 acres. I intend to put some Angus to pasture on about 35 acres of the property. The acquisition of a tractor will be my first experience in operating farm equipment.From what I have read so far, it appears that the JD 5105 should be plenty of tractor for cutting the field and other general farm chores. The price issue is another issue entirely. The local dealer quoted $15,426 for the tractor and $2,150 for an MX6 cutter. He said that to add a front loader will run another $1,000 for the hydraulic unit and about $3,600 for the loader.What do you fellows think of this tractor for my application? I think I will hire out the hay bailing since the equipment costs quite a lot for such a small parcel of land. Any thoughts about the price are welcome as well. I had hoped to do a deal for less than $20,000.Thanks,Bob
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| Roger L.
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2000-11-18 21588
Congratulations, Bob! It sounds like you are getting set up for a great adventure. If you know cattle, then you know that everything involved with keeping them (including the cows themselves) is heavy, muddy, unresponsive, and needs to be moved - all the time. A tractor with a loader will sure save your body. Few folks are more frugal than farming people, and every one that I know owns the best tractor he can afford. Get that front end loader and 4wd if you can. You can't buy a new back for $20K. ....
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| bob
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2000-11-18 21590
For sure on having to move everything, all the time. I have thought about getting the 4WD option but don't know how much it might be needed in Arkansas. Of course, you always use whatever capacity you have :-)
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Bob ....
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 | Art White
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2000-11-18 21596
Bob have you looked at what might be available in the used Market? Often there are good used tractors that are available for what it sounds like you need for half the money. ....
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2000-11-18 21601
Bob-One thing that I am very happy that I got was a 4-n-1 bucket instead of the regular bucket. It is worth its weight in gold. 4wd is almost a necessity with the loader. ....
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| Roger L.
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2000-11-18 21602
Bob, I don't believe that you are looking for a "compact" tractor - which is what most of this forum members own. Compacts are usually under 35 horse and under 3500 lbs...and often 4wd. The JD 4xxx series are compact tractors. What you are looking at is a small Ag tractor - called a "utility" tractor. They may or may not be 4wd, are 35 to 50 hp, weigh 4000 and up, and are built quite a bit heavier than the compacts. Size-wise, they are just about the same size as the compacts. The 5105 is a small utility ag tractor. They are just right for loader work and bush hogging but a bit much for finish mowing the lawn.
The reason why I say all this is because JD utility ag tractors have been around for a long time. They are about as reliable as machinery ever gets. And because they have been around, there are lots of good used ones on the market. You will save money - maybe get it for around 13 to 14K instead of 20. You can go on down to the JD dealer and ask him to find you a 2xxx series utilility tractor built in the last 10 to 15 years and you'll need a loader too. Something with 2 thousand hours would be nice...it could have twice that if taken care of. If the one he finds comes with 4wd you will sure appreciate it, but you can get by without it in a utility tractor where you can't in a lighter machine. ....
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 | dsg
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2000-11-18 21603
Bob, I bought a 4700 with numerous attachments back in July. One of the attachments was a MX6 cutter, front and rear chain guards, stump jumper and slip-clutch for $1,771. I also agree 4wd is a must, it comes in handy for loader work, among other things. David ....
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| bob
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2000-11-18 21609
Thanks very much for the responses and advice. I think that going the used route is an excellent approach to getting a well configured tractor. I had been looking for a JD4020 but the asking prices just seem way out of line for a 25 year old tractor.
In fact, my original research was for Kubotas. I have a Kubota lawn tractor that is a real joy to operate. I have never had a disappointing day with it. Then again, I was only cutting an acre of residential lawn :-)
The explanation and distinction about compact tractors and utility tractors is very informative and appreciated. To be honest, I bet that I spend more time bush hogging and moving manure than almost anything else. The front loader is essential, to me.
As for 2WD v 4WD, I was surprised to learn of so much enthusiasm and importance of 4WD when using a loader. Thanks for telling me.
I have little doubt that a compact tractor can be equipped with the necessary components for about $20,000. The JD5105 with 4WD and other goodies will probably turn into $25,000. Guess I will keep on reading, researching and learning for a while.
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Bob ....
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